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  • in reply to: A-REI.11 #3505
    tomergal
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    I think that students don’t have to actually graph rational functions (or any function) in order to practice problems related to A-REI.11. This standard is much more concerned with the fact that the x-coordinate of the intersection of the graphs is the solution of the corresponding equation. To practice that, the students can just be given the graph ready-made, and they can also graph the functions themselves using a graphing calculator.

    in reply to: rational root theorem #3469
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    Okay, interesting. I knew graphing calculators were allowed, but was not aware they were required for the test. Without a graphing calculator though, is there any way to solve this question without RRT?

    in reply to: rational root theorem #3467
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    Hello,

    I just wanted to note that the rational root theorem seems necessary in order to solve problem number 19 in this PARCC Algebra 1 practice test.

    in reply to: Rationalizing the denominator #3433
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    Thanks for the response!

    I agree that RtD (“rationalizing the denominator”) is simply an application of the “difference of squares” pattern, which is also applied when we divide complex numbers using conjugates. I think we should definitely stress this fact, that these seemingly different things are all applications of the same algebraic tool.

    However, while RtD is nice to practice, it doesn’t serve any useful purpose like conjugates do in complex number division. Therefore, I’m unsure whether we should teach it to students as something they need to know and do. Maybe it suffices to let students extend expressions such as (√6+√5)(√6-√5)=6-5=1, or factor expressions as in x-1=(√x+1)(√x-1), to show how the pattern is applicable even in cases where the terms aren’t perfect squares.

    Let’s wait to hear from Prof. McCallum on how he perceives the status of RtD in the curriculum.

    in reply to: Triangle congruence criteria (G-CO.8) #3432
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    Thank you Sarah!

    This definitely helps. I’m pretty certain I can devise nice, flowing, proofs of SAS, ASA, and SSS based on Wu’s highly rigorous proofs.

    in reply to: A.APR.4 #3018
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    First of all, of course you can use my examples. I should also probably mention that I’m writing questions for Khan Academy.

    Second, I think we’re in agreement that the intention in “use polynomial identities” is that students should be able to use identities as a tool in reasoning about numbers.

    I was mainly confused by the example of the “Pythagorean” identity. I think that under my interpretation, the “use” of this identity is to explain why for any integers x and y, the three expressions (x^2+y^2)^2, (x^2-y^2)^2, and (2xy)^2 form a Pythagorean triple. This is different from the “use” suggested by the example, which is the act of finding triples by substituting specific integers for x and y. Finding Pythagorean triples is a very specific use, which I wasn’t able to generalize to a broader category of application.

    Hope that was clearer.

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    in reply to: A.APR.4 #2949
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    I’m having trouble with figuring out the meaning of this standard (“Prove polynomial identities and use them to describe numerical relationships.”) It seems there are two general aspects to the standard: proving identities, and using them. The standard, the progression doc, and the Illustrative Math example all put much more focus on the applied aspect of the standard. However, while there are infinite polynomial identities to prove, we have only two specific examples of polynomial identities we can use, and these uses are both pretty hard to replicate with other polynomial identities.

    The example suggested by the standard itself (let’s call it the “Pythagorean” identity) implies that the use of polynomial identities is such that there are some special identities we can use by plugging in values and obtaining meaningful sets of numbers. I would really appreciate more examples of polynomial identities we can use this way.

    Being unable to find even one more example of a such an identity, I came up with a different interpretation of the standard. According to this interpretation, the standard is aiming for students to arrive at different polynomial identities by themselves, in order to prove theorems that regard numerical relationships. The “Pythagorean” identity doesn’t fit this interpretation, since I don’t think we can expect students to derive it by themselves. It also isn’t used as a part of a grander proof. The case of (n+1)^2-n^2=2n+1 seems more to the point here. With some guidance, students should be able not only to prove this identity, but to actually derive it as a part of a modeling effort to explain why the difference between consecutive perfect squares is always odd.

    Under this interpretation, I thought it could be possible to use polynomial identities to prove some divisibility issues. For instance, the identity n^2+n=n(n+1) can explain why for any value of n, the result of n^2+n is an even number. Similarly (but more elaborately), the identity n^3+3n^2+3n=n(n+1)(n+2) can explain why for any value of n, n^3+3n^2+3n is divisible by 6.

    To sum it up, I would appreciate:
    a. More examples of polynomial identities that can be useful in a similar manner to the “Pythagorean” identity.
    b. Your opinion of the two different interpretations and the examples that follow.

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